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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Strategies for the Resistance 2.0 with Leah Greenberg

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Well, here we are. The second inauguration of Donald Trump is quickly approaching. And there’s no doubt that progressives have a lot of work to do in the months and years ahead. Our guest this week co-founded one of the biggest groups that initially came about in response to Trump 1.0. Leah Greenberg is co-founder and co-executive director of Indivisible, an organization with a mission to organize thousands of local groups to resist the GOPs agenda, elect local champions and fight for progressive policies. She joins WITHpod to discuss lessons learned from the past, ideas within Indivisible’s “Practical Guide to Democracy on The Brink” and glimmers of hope as ordinary people fight back.

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0:00.0

If there's anything we know about successful movements to defeat autocracies around the world,

0:11.8

right? Successful movements to take down dictatorships is that they build broad coalitions.

0:16.2

And the coalition may not be united by anything other than their opposition to what is currently happening.

0:22.0

And that is okay. That is actually a precondition for success in many cases.

0:26.4

And so part of what we're going to have to do during this time is recognize that some people will be with us on some issues that we care about.

0:32.8

And they won't be with us on other issues or other policies that we care about.

0:37.4

And we still need them

0:38.6

as part of that broad product for democracy.

0:45.4

Hello and welcome to why is this happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

1:00.0

Well, as I speak to you, the country's preparing for the second inauguration of Donald Trump.

1:14.7

And the Democratic Party and the broader, let's say, center left, the broad coalition of folks on the center left, ranging from, you know, Noam Chonsky to Liz Cheney, is trying to figure out how they are going to deal with, work against, maybe compromise with this new Trump administration. And there's been a

1:22.2

pretty notable different tune being sung by a lot of prominent democratic politicians about Trump. I think in 2016,

1:30.4

to generalize, Democrats generally thought it was a fluke. He had lost the popular vote by three

1:35.9

million votes, which is like not an insignificant amount, actually. And in fact, it's a larger

1:40.0

amount than he won it by this time. And that he was an aberration and needed to be resisted

1:47.3

from day one. And we saw that with the woman's march that happens the day after inauguration.

1:51.1

We saw it with Democrats skipping his inauguration. And generally this, you know, this notion of

1:55.3

resistance, which became a kind of watchword. This time around, you have a lot of prominent

1:59.4

Democrats saying, we have to take a prominent Democrats saying we have to take a

2:02.1

different tack. We have to work with Donald Trump on areas of shared agreement. You even have Bernie

2:08.0

Sanders, obviously, who's sort of to the left of the Democratic caucus saying, I look forward to

2:12.6

working with Trump on capping credit card fees at 10%, which is some policy that Trump, in his sort of inimitable way, throughout at some campaign stop, which don't hold your breath for that to happen.

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