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Strategic defeat in the Gulf w/ Jennifer Kavanagh

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4.8551 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Jennifer Kavanagh joins PTO to talk about the two-week conditional ceasefire that has been agreed between the United States and Iran, and how the Islamic Republic succeeded in inflicting what looks to be a major strategic defeat on the US. We talked about the implications of the ceasefire, what it means for US-Israeli relations and what will happen to American bases in the region - now that it's been shown that the US military is unable to defend them. And finally, we talked about what lessons American allies in Asia may be drawing from the conflict.

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The

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The Hello and welcome to politics, very other.

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My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Jennifer Kavanaugh.

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In today's episode, we talked about the two-week conditional ceasefire

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that has been agreed between the United States and Iran and how the Islamic Republic succeeded

0:43.3

in inflicting what looks to be a major strategic defeat on the US. It's a rather shorter interview

0:49.3

than usual today, as we thought it would be good to get something out quickly on the topic,

0:53.3

and with the situation obviously being very fluid. In the conversation, I asked Jennifer about the implications

0:58.7

of the ceasefire, what it means for US-Israeli relations, and what will happen to American bases in

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the region, now that it's been shown that the US military is unable to defend them. And finally,

1:09.7

we talked about what lessons American allies in Asia

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may be drawing from the conflict. If you find this interview useful, then please do consider becoming

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a £5 patron of the podcast. The show depends entirely upon listener support, and as well as keeping

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PTO going, you'll also get access to bonus content, such as the recent listener question episode

1:27.9

with Richard Seymour. You can support the show in pounds or whatever your local currency

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happens to be, and you can pledge any amount you choose. Go to patreon.com forward slash poll

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theory other to sign up. Jennifer Kavanaugh is a senior fellow and director of military analysis

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at defence priorities.

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A political scientist by training, her work has appeared in foreign affairs, the New York Times,

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foreign policy, and the Journal of Conflict Resolution, amongst other venues.

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So Jennifer, we're speaking shortly after the two-week conditional ceasefire was agreed

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between the United States and Iran, which includes a temporary reopening of the Strait of Hormuz

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