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Today on the Grave Talks, we continue our conversation with Andy Thomas about his new book,

Strange, Paranormal Realities in the Everyday World.

Let's talk for a minute about out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences

because they are different, very different experiences.

But like an out-of-body experience, how does that happen? And can you create that opportunity for it to happen to you?

Can you put yourself in a state that kind of lends itself to an out-of-body experience?

So the answer to that is apparently, yes.

What I would say is, before you do it, make sure that you get a really good instruction

from something that knows what they're doing.

It can be dangerous.

I mean, if you start dabbling in anything like this, you know, there are some perils,

and I would always advise being really sure

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