This is Australian True Crime with Michelle Laurie. And today we're joined again by former homicide

detective Charlie Bezina. Charlie's here to talk about some memorable cases from his 38-year-long

career with Victoria Police. This is actually the second half of our conversation with Charlie.

If you'd like to listen to Part 1, it's episode 737, and there's a link in the show notes of this episode to help you do

that. We begin this conversation by chatting about Charlie's lack of PTSD.

This is Australian True Crime. We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this

podcast is created, the Wurundri Woi Warang people of the Koolin Nation. And a warning, this

episode of the podcast contains graphic descriptions of violence. To me, it was a challenge. I loved

going to work and doing it. Yeah, you've managed to, and I do believe you when you say that, I do believe that you've managed

to compartmentalise it, to cope with it, to have a great home life and all those things.

Yeah, and I was, you are detracted from a lot because you don't, because I was also

a manager looking after 10 detectives,, nine detectives, looking after their welfare

and well-being, be engaging with their partners, making sure administrative that's done.

And I'm dealing with multiple victims, multiple offenders, families, offenders, families and

the likes, you're so well.

And unlike the movies, and I say to people, I say, well, we just don't do one homicide. No. We get the strad. We get an acquittal. And then we can't, we think about it, but then we move on the next job. You know, there's one year there. My team alone did 14 homicides for the year. Multiply that by 14 families, 14 victims families. So-in-victims families. So you can't dwell on it.

And then you've got no connection. That's where going into the post-mortem room gowned up.

And you don't want to dwell on and say, this was a, this person suffered so much,

this and the day. You've got to remove yourself from that and say, my goal is to find

out why, who's responsible, and it becomes. And you become quite skilled, as they would have

told, you become quite skilled in identifying the organs and saying, well, there's a serosis

liver, or there's a disease heart, and that type of stuff, you become quite apt in medical

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