This is Australian True Crime with Michelle Laurie.

And today we're joined again by former homicide detective Charlie Bazina.

Charlie's here to talk about some memorable cases from his 38-year-long career with Victoria Police.

This is actually the second half of our conversation with Charlie.

If you'd like to listen to Part 1, it's episode 737, and there's a link in the show notes of this episode to help you do that.

We begin this conversation by chatting about Charlie's lack of PTSD.

This is Australian True Crime.

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created,

the Warrandari Woi Warang people of the Koolan Nation.

And a warning, this episode of the podcast contains graphic descriptions of violence.

To me it was a challenge. I loved going to work and doing it. You are detracted from a lot.

Because I was also a manager looking after 10 detectives,

nine detectives, looking after their welfare and well-being, be engaging with their partners,

making sure administrative that's done. And I'm dealing with multiple victims, multiple offenders,

multiple victims' families, offenders, families and the likes, he's so well. And unlike the

movies, and I say

to people, I say, well, we just don't do one homicide. There's one year there, my team alone

did 14 homicides for the year. Do you multiply that by 14 families, 14 victims families?

So you can't dwell on it. We get called. There's a young female in the early mid-20s. She's on the banks of a particular

river. She suffered a gunshot wound to the chest. Just put the gun between the legs, gun

shot wound to the chest. The local detectives investigated it and rightly come up with a suicide.

One of the deceased sisters was a lawyer and pretty well-to-do people, and they were adamant.

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