The war has entered its eighth month.

Not only is there no end in sight, there seems to be no endgame.

In sight, defense minister Joav Ghalant, pointing to that while staging an intervention for Netanyahu.

We'll talk about all that and stick around till the end.

We have so many MENCH nominees.

We're considering a spin-off podcast this week.

It's unholy.

I'm Unite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv. And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

It's unholy. Two Jews on the news. I mean, you're right about no end in sight, no end game

insight. And I'm guessing from everything that we've been saying that that would have cast a

pull over the week that's just gone because officially it was meant to be a day yes of memorial

and commemoration, but followed by in remembrance,

but followed by a big national party.

And something tells me, maybe in your voice even, that it kind of wasn't a party week in Israel this week.

Yes, the mood is not a celebratory one.

You're right.

I mean, even on a regular year, that's a sensitive pivot to make between Memorial Day and right after that Independence Day.

So you remember the fallen soldiers and civilians who fell and were attacked in terror attacks.

And then you sort of have to muster all of the enthusiasm to celebrate.

Independence Day, this pivot happens always on air in a ceremony called a torchlighting

ceremony, sort of the symbol that brings Israelis together always, ever since the 1950s

when this ceremony began.

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