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The Process with Jude Brewer

STORYBOUND: Andy Greenberg

The Process with Jude Brewer

Jude Brewer

Science, Technology, Society & Culture

4.8763 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Andy Greenberg reads an excerpt from his book "Sandworm", with an original Storybound remix featuring Locator. Andy Greenberg is a senior writer for WIRED, covering security, privacy, and information freedom. He’s the author of the book Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers. The book and excerpts from it published in WIRED won a Gerald Loeb Award for International Reporting, a Sigma Delta Chi Award from the Society of Professional Journalists, and the Cornelius Ryan Citation for Excellence from the Overseas Press Club.  Locator is the solo project of cellist, composer, and multi-instrumentalist Daniel Frankhuizen. By putting the cello in the driver seat melodically, texturally, and emotionally, Locator cuts out a unique path between contemporary classical and electronic minimalism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Andy Greenberg and you're listening to Storybound.

0:07.0

I'm going to read a chapter of my book Sandworm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for

0:12.0

the Kremlin's most dangerous hackers.

0:14.0

My book, Sandworm, is about a group of Russian hackers known as Sandworm that carried out what I would say is the first

0:22.5

full-blown cyber war to have ever taken place. And that cyber war kind of climaxed in an attack

0:29.6

called Natpetia, unleashed in Ukraine in 2017, that spread to the rest of the world and ultimately

0:35.3

cost $10 billion in global damage.

0:39.3

But leading up to that attack, Sandworm also carried out two cyber attacks on Ukraine's

0:45.3

power grid that caused blackouts. And the second of those attacks, which was targeting

0:50.3

the Ukrainian capital of Kiev, was designed not just to turn off the power, but actually

0:54.4

to cause physical destruction to electrical equipment in a transmission station north of the capital.

1:01.5

So the chapter of the book that I'm about to read is actually kind of a flashback. It's a bit of

1:06.8

historical context about the sort of technical underpinning for that sort of destructive

1:12.8

attack on power grid equipment.

1:14.1

And it's about a cyber attack experiment that was carried out not by the Russian government,

1:19.2

but by our own.

1:26.1

Welcome to Storybound, presented by Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate.

1:32.7

I'm your host, Jude Brewer.

1:43.1

In just one moment, you'll hear Andy Greenberg read an excerpt from his novel Sandworm,

1:48.4

accompanied with an original score by Daniel Frank Huizen.

1:51.5

After that, we'll have a riveting discussion with Andy about cyber warfare and the process of researching Sandworm.

2:04.5

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