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Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of Pulling the Thread.

Today, I'm bringing back one of my favorite Jungian psychotherapist, my friend, Sacha Doylebyak.

Thank you. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the thread.

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

Here is today's guest, psychotherapist, Sotia Doyle Bayock, talking about the plague of waiting

for approval. This inflation and this waiting for dad to choose the plague of waiting for approval.

This inflation and this waiting for dad to choose you, this waiting for approval from dad, from daddy.

All of that is so antithetical to actually live in your own existence, that in fact, what we have to do to start is say goodbye to the structures we knew and feel the grief of that and the terror of that and the fear of that and set out on our own.

In some form, this is the hero's journey, right?

But it's the whole story of psychological development.

And if we're always waiting for approval, did I do good?

Did I do it right?

Was this good?

Did I follow whatever my religious tradition is correctly? Did I do it right? Was this good? Did I follow whatever my religious

tradition is correctly? Did I get the right grades? Every single piece of this is some form of approval

that doesn't really allow us to actually just live our own lives. So it's totally antithetical

then to truly growing up into an actual psychological adulthood, less creative life.

Sotcha Doyle Bayoch is a psychotherapist, an educator of Yungian psychology, and the author of

Quarter Life. She's been on the podcast a few times. I'll link those episodes in the show notes.

If you've heard us talk before, you know that Sacha is also a friend of mine and that we

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