You are listening to the mortification of Spin, the regular broadcast of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals.

My name is Todd Pruitt.

I am one of your hosts.

I'm the pastor at Church of the Savior in Wayne, Pennsylvania, and I'm joined as always by Dr. Carl Truman, actually the Reverend Dr.

Carl Truman of Westminster Seminary.

And I think we can call you as far as your role as pastor, Carl, since you're a part-time

pastor, then we can call you the distinguished pastor of Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pennsylvania.

What is a part-time pastor? Well, it's what Carl does. It's just part-time. He gets all the

glory of preaching, and you know, Carl, he's not that much into the other human beings.

None of the glories of salary and things like that, of course, yeah.

Book expense, that sort of thing.

I particularly like the distinguished title because that clearly implies that I'm better than

everybody else.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

And I struggle with that.

I struggle with these titles because it clearly means you think you're better than me. I have a bit of chip on my shoulder. I'm living in the northeast, but I'm from Houston, Texas. I'm around Presbyterians, but I was raised Southern Baptist. And so I always feel like I'm a bit looked down upon.

It's very hard when somebody moves from an inferior culture to a superior one, not to experience what you're going through, Todd.

So I would want to affirm you in what you're feeling it's entirely natural and you will get over it.

Well, I love Pennsylvania. It's a wonderful suburb of Texas, and it's a beautiful area.

The people are a bit cranky, but otherwise.

You know, of course, that if they divided Alaska in two, Texas would be the third

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