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Women of Impact

Stop Apologizing for Feeling—How to Heal After Betrayal & Walk Away from Toxic People | Najwa Zebian (Fan Fav)

Women of Impact

Impact Theory

Education, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.8701 Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

This is a fan fav episode. If you’re a human, you’ve most likely been in relationships and situations that spark regret, shame and confusion on what to do and who to be in the moment. So often, people spend time trying to please everyone around them. The way you dress, the way you style your hair, where you sit in the meeting, all of these decisions are so easily influenced by a want and desire to be given approval from the right people. But what about you? What do you want? How often are you spending time apologizing for feeling, and even better how often are you downplaying that you even feel anything? Najwa Zebian is an activist, poet and celebrated author. She joins Lisa for a second time to discuss how she came to radical self acceptance, and share the startling fact that we may actually be gaslighting ourselves when we diminish and disregard the pain we feel when vulnerability has been betrayed in the hands of the wrong person.  Najwa’s Questions for Self-Acceptance: 1. Who are you? 2. Why do I believe what I believe? 3. Why do I live my life the way that I do? 4. Why am I scared of X, Y and Z? 5. Why are you so afraid of feeling pain?  “When you build your home and other people you give them the power to make as homeless” -Najwa Zebian  SHOW NOTES:  Gaslighting Yourself | Why diminishing your painful experience lessens your self-worth [0:40] Homeless | How we build homes in others and end up homeless when they walk away [6:37] Toxic Savior | Trying to save someone doesn’t mean you’re owed anything, that’s toxic [9:47] Proof of Love | Examining the real cost of having someone love versus what you receive [16:03] Self-Aware | The need to be aware of your triggers and the filter you’ve created for life [19:56] Self-Acceptance | Self-acceptance versus indifference and know who you’re accepting [25:59] Identity Crisis | Najwa shares the personal crisis that made her question her identity [33:59] Being Hurt | Why you need to acknowledge the hurt and know healing in your power [39:30] Vulnerability | How to be open to vulnerability after being hurt even in protection mode [45:24] Unwinding Triggers | Finding the origin of your triggers and allow yourself to feel it [51:56] Self-Judgement | Not blaming or judging yourself for allowing things to happen [55:36]  Original air date: 10-27-2021 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:06.3

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0:08.6

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0:30.3

Feel the pain, be able to say moving forward, if a person treats me in a way that is similar to what I just experienced,

0:43.2

because I've allowed myself to feel the pain of how it actually feels on the inside,

0:49.6

I'm going to draw a line and say it ends here.

0:57.0

Nazra, welcome back to Women of Impact.

1:00.0

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

1:03.0

Oh my God, the feedback we got from your last episode was just absolutely freaking phenomenal.

1:08.0

And reading your new book, there was one thing that hit me so hard I had to

1:13.6

start here and I just want to read an extra from your book you should never be okay with being

1:17.9

treated that badly you should never be okay with being betrayed you should never be okay with

1:22.8

having someone you trusted so much turn around and treat you as if you never meant anything to them,

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