Stop Agreeing to Disagree: A Conversation with Pastor John Pavlovitz

The PoliticsGirl Podcast

MeidasTouch Network, Leigh McGowan

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Join me and John Pavlovitz post-Christmas to talk about how America seems off track with the Christian faith. As John says, “It’s not politics or religion that divides us, it’s vision.” What we see as the future and purpose of our country and our collective faiths. We’re in a vision divide America, and we have to ask ourselves if it’s better to live in a conditional community where you silence yourself to avoid being ostracized, or if it’s better to live authentically and seek a new tribe who want to work for the betterment of all? Isn’t that the true reason for the season? I highly recommend this conversation because John is one of those people who reminds you there’s still good in the world. At a time when cruelty has become popular, leading with love is brave. Talking to John inspires the kind of courage we’re going to need to come together and fix what’s broken. As always, if you enjoy what we do, please consider SUBSCRIBING to PoliticsGirl Premium. You’ll get this podcast ad free, along with a bunch of other perks, including the knowledge that you’re allowing us to keep bringing you the best content possible. If that interests you, please go to https://www.politicsgirl.com/premium and subscribe today!! Thanks so much! xoPG https://johnpavlovitz.com/ X: @johnpavlovitz Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnpavlovitzofficial Instagram: @johnpavlovitz Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/John-Pavlovitz/e/B0768J9N6Z%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share MERCH STORE NOW OPEN: Check it out at: https://www.politicsgirl.com/store As always, please RATE and SUBSCRIBE so we can grow the show, open the dialogue, and inspire change moving forward! All show links here!: https://linktr.ee/politicsgirl This episode is sponsored by… https://rocketmoney.com/politicsgirl https://trymiracle.com/politicsgirl Code: PoliticsGirl https://shopbeam.com/politicsgirl Code: PoliticsGirl https://GetSuperBeets.com Code: PoliticsGirl

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0:00.0	It's not just hey these are hateful people because I've seen the beauty in them I've seen the goodness in them
0:05.4	But it's been directed toward me someone they know and love and I always want to think about the people who are not present at the table as I engage. Hello and welcome to the Politics Girl podcast. I'm your host Lee McGowan. Let's get into it.
0:29.5	Since yesterday was Christmas I thought it was only fitting to have a conversation with someone for whom Christianity is not only the basis of his career, but also the fundamental question of his life.
0:38.0	I wanted to talk a little about the religion itself, but I also thought that we should touch on what people call the reason for the season, which used to be kindness, love, and hope, and now might feel like something different.
0:48.5	I don't think you have to be Christian to consider the idea of someone whose purpose was to devote themselves to the better men of man as a noble project.
0:56.2	You don't have to believe in Jesus to understand that what he stood for or at least what he used to stand for before Christian nationalists started getting so loud
1:04.1	was actually pretty aspirational.
1:06.6	To have this conversation with me today is John Pavlovitz.
1:09.7	John is a writer, a pastor, and an activist.
1:12.4	Not only is he a thought leader publishing best-selling books like A Bigger Table,
1:16.3	if God is Love, Don't Be a Jerk, and his newest, worth fighting for, finding courage and compassion
1:21.8	when cruelty is trending.
1:23.0	His blog, the stuff that needs to be said,
1:26.0	and his new sub-stack, The Beautiful Mess,
1:28.0	have found their way to an incredibly diverse and worldwide audience
1:31.0	with hundreds of millions of views.
1:33.6	A 25-year veteran of church ministries, John is the kind of
1:36.9	unicorn in today's Christian community seeing that he has a deep commitment to
1:40.7	equality and diversity and justice inside and outside of his faith.
1:45.0	John is one of those people who reminds you that there is still good in the world and at a time
1:49.2	where cruelty has become popular leading with love really does seem brave.
1:54.0	John is one of those people who truly inspires the kind of courage we're going to need
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