Thank you for turning on the TJ and Jess show, a podcast with me and my wife, Jess.

Yep.

It's good to see you again.

Thank you.

How do you feel when someone forces you to do something and you really can't say no to that?

How do you feel?

What do you mean by forcing?

Meaning you put someone in a position where they have no choice but to follow through and do something that may be they didn't want to do.

I mean, you have to give me more context.

No, I'm just asking you a question.

If I'm being forced to do something I don't want to do, then I'm probably not happy about it.

That's cool that you feel that way about yourself.

But when it comes to forcing people in your life to do things,

you obviously have no problem with it,

and you recently did that to me.

I just happen to remember it right before we started recording.

Oh, that's going to...

And so I want to bring up the other day

when you were leaving for leisure time.

Wait a second.

Specifically, what was the leisure time?

There was no mention of anything on the calendar that I would have to be sitting with our children.

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