Steven Wilson: Progressive Rock God on Sabotaging His Career for Musical Integrity

Disruptors

Rob Moore

How To, Society & Culture, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Education, Careers, Self-improvement, Investing

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🗓️ 10 September 2023

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

Rob welcomes back Steven Wilson of the band Porcupine Tree. Steven and Rob define the word genius, talk about why Radiohead and The Beatles were able to gain the attention of the world and the constant push and pull between creativity and business in the music world. Steven also gives his thoughts on AI and its impact on music and the arts as well as why he continues to make ‘movies for the ears’ in a world that doesn’t appreciate music in this way anymore.

STEVEN WILSON REVEALS

Why he isn’t the best musician
Why commercial success isn’t important
What has replaced radio
What makes a musical genius
How metal has changed, both culturally and musically
His thoughts on woke culture
Why he is a cannibal to his own success

ALSO FEATURED:

The varying ways the Beatles have influenced music and the world forever.
Why failure is inevitable if you want to progress.
The current role of music in society.

BEST MOMENTS

“ If you wanna make a good song you’ve got to make a lot of shit songs first”

“We came up with something really special that has stood the test of time”

“Music should never be market research”

“I’ve always found myself naturally out of step to much of what is going on”

“The Beatles are the standard to which all other rock music is measure”

“How to you rebel against your parents when they were listening to slayer or metallica”

“All of my favourite albums I didn’t like the first time round”

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ABOUT THE HOST

Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”

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0:52.0	To me, those are the people that push the envelope and push things forward.
0:56.0	Because everyone will always tell those people, don't try that. There's never been done before. It won't work. You might not be able to sell it.
1:03.0	Yeah, absolutely. You might not be able to sell it, but on the other hand, those are the things that push art forward.
1:09.0	Stephen, are you a musical genius?
1:13.0	Genius. What an overused word that was, isn't it? I see genius.
1:18.0	Yeah, I couldn't stay straight face. Obviously not. I mean, the thing is for me, a genius would be someone that never produces anything bad.
1:28.0	Now, even people that have made classic albums, people that have had sustained careers in whatever field you might mention, have misfires.
1:40.0	Do things that don't work.
1:42.0	Is that not part of being a genius?
1:44.0	I don't know. The ability to fail, you mean, is part being a genius. Yeah, but a genius wouldn't make a mistake, would they?
1:50.0	I don't know. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term. For me, a genius is someone that always nails it.
1:55.0	And also, I think another thing about genius for me is that someone that whatever they turn their hand to, they can kind of master it.
2:01.0	You know, so genius is someone that's, you know, they can make a movie and it's amazing. They can make an album. It's amazing. They can write a book. It's amazing.
2:08.0	I think there's a lot of people that use the word genius when they just mean someone is very good at doing something.
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