Having lived through like a half dozen component shortage things,

you just sort of weight them out and you just let some local Macs or local men determine the future.

This will all correct itself in short order.

This world where you're all gated on dollars per token is a thing that's going to move to your own device,

which is exactly what happened

with all of computing. Anytime there's a resource constraint that you have to pay for,

it moves to your device and becomes free. AI introduces yet another opportunity to change that

dynamic for the PC to have it be forward-looking,

not backward-looking.

And I think this is incredibly important opportunity for Microsoft and for the industry as a whole.

Few people have had a front row seat to the Personal Computing Revolution, quite like Steven

Sinovsky.

Over nearly three decades at Microsoft,

he helped shape products that defined the PC era, including Windows, Office, and Surface.

Along the way, he also witnessed one of the technology industry's longest running rivalries,

Microsoft and Apple. As Apple celebrates its 50th anniversary, questions about product design,

platforms, hardware, software, and the future of computing remain as relevant as ever.

Theo Jaffe speaks with Steven Sinovsky about Apple, Microsoft, and the evolution of personal

computing. I'm in the situation room with Steven Sinovsky, who might have been like the first ever guest on MTS back when we were still doing test streams, I think.

He was the first person I interviewed on a test stream.

He was the president of the Windows Division at Microsoft.

He created the Surface program at Microsoft,

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