on the left there's a lot of people who think you can just push a button to like end homelessness

end poverty just take all the Elon's money and they just don't do any math and they don't have

any understanding of scarce resources scarce resources in the physical world they don't understand

scarce resources monetarily right they just think there's a cornucopia a bountyist mother

government is GOV is GOD, government is God, but the

bountyous mother form of God, which can just hand out everything, right? And the rightist,

while more realistic often, is subject to a different but symmetrical, somewhat symmetrical version

of this, where they think, if the leftist thinks there's infinite money, the rightist thinks

there's infinite power. The rights

does not viscerally understand, oh, I need to work for votes. I need to get political support.

Just like the leftist doesn't understand scarce resource in the physical world, the rightest

doesn't understand scarce resource in the digital world, that they actually need to get all

these people to agree with them that this is a good thing, and you can't just

point a gun at everybody. Right? And there's limits to just brute force. Who has more power

today? Nations or networks? For decades, the internet has connected people across borders,

creating new communities, markets, and institutions that don't neatly fit inside traditional

states. At the same time, global power is shifting as China expands its industrial capacity,

and countries rethink alliances, supply chains, and economic strategy.

The result is a growing debate about what comes next, a world organized primarily by nation states,

or one increasingly shaped by digital networks that operate across them.

Theo Jaffe and Sophia Puccini speak with Bologi Srinivasa and Stephen Glynnard

about geopolitics, technology, and the future of global power.

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