Steven Pinker: Outsmarting an Irrational World : 1333

The Human Upgrade: Biohacking for Longevity & Performance

Dave Asprey

Fat, Health & Fitness, Meditation, Biohacking, Lifestyle, Diet, Science, Self-improvement, Fasting, Nutrition, Hacking, Fitness, Brain, Wellness, Education

4.6 • 7.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Your brain isn’t as rational as you think, and that blind spot can wreck your decision-making, relationships, and even your health. In this episode, you’ll learn how to spot the hidden cognitive traps that even the smartest people fall for, and how to upgrade your thinking so you can perform better, live longer, and make choices that actually serve you.

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Host Dave Asprey sits down with Steven Pinker, a world-renowned cognitive psychologist, Harvard professor, and bestselling author whose research reshaped how we understand language, bias, social norms, and rationality. Pinker’s decades of scholarship make him a trusted guide to the mechanics of the mind and the behaviors that either elevate or derail human performance and longevity.

Together they break down how the brain actually reasons, why smart people still fall for tribal thinking, what current AI gets wrong about human intelligence, and how “common knowledge” quietly governs cooperation, law, and civility. This is a masterclass in brain optimization through better thinking, built for people who care about biohacking, hacking mental models, neuroplasticity, and high-performance decision-making.

You’ll learn:

• How to recognize and counter the “my-side bias,” even if you’re highly intelligent

• Why common knowledge creates and sustains social norms and coordination

• The art of indirect speech and tact, and how to calibrate your words to reduce social risk

• Simple upgrades that make video calls feel closer to real eye contact and why that boosts trust

• What today’s AI gets wrong about minds and why models hallucinate

• Rational habits that work in the real world: steelmanning, probabilistic thinking, adversarial collaboration, and making bets as a tax on bad arguments

• Why liberal democracy fits human nature better than autocracy and how norms erode or hold

• How to rebuild face-to-face social skills in a screen-first culture to improve resilience and performance

This is essential listening for fans of biohacking, brain optimization, human performance, neuroplasticity, and longevity who want clear, usable frameworks to think better and live better with Dave Asprey.

Dave Asprey is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, founder of Bulletproof Coffee, and the father of biohacking. With over 1,000 interviews and 1 million monthly listeners, The Human Upgrade brings you the knowledge to take control of your biology, extend your longevity, and optimize every system in your body and mind. Each episode delivers cutting-edge insights in health, performance, neuroscience, supplements, nutrition, biohacking, emotional intelligence, and conscious living.

New episodes are released every Tuesday, Thursday, Friday (audio-only), and Sunday (BONUS). Dave asks the questions no one else will and gives you real tools to become stronger, smarter, and more resilient.

Keywords: Steven Pinker, cognitive psychology, rational thinking, my-side bias, human nature, common knowledge, cognitive bias, AI and human intelligence, democracy and human behavior, social norms psychology, decision-making hacks, brain optimization, biohacking the mind, mental performance, neuroplasticity, rationality movement, bias and longevity, functional intelligence, Human Upgrade podcast, Dave Asprey, thinking traps, steelmanning, epistemic humility, outrage economy, psychology of power, critical thinking upgrade, hacking human performance

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Timestamps:

0:00 — Trailer

0:59 — Introduction

1:58 — Human Nature

3:30 — Cognitive Psychology

5:46 — Academia Path

7:32 — Canada vs. U.S.

8:42 — College Value

12:08 — Curiosity

15:25 — Government & Humans

19:56 — AI & Cognition

24:45 — Fairness & Justice

32:56 — Social Norms

47:12 — Communication Skills

55:32 — Virtual Society

57:20 — Personal Biases

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0:00.0	There are some people who will do things that make them lose and other people lose because they're too dumb to do otherwise.
0:04.7	We think we're smarter than we are. We think we're more correct than we are. We think we are nobler than we are.
0:10.8	All of us. And so if you empower a human with all the flaws that come with being human, things are bound to go wrong because they are not omniscient.
0:19.4	Stephen Pinker is one of the world's most celebrated thinkers,
0:22.9	a Harvard professor of psychology,
0:24.8	a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist,
0:27.1	and named by Time Magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world.
0:33.1	His groundbreaking work on language, human nature, and the power of reason
0:36.9	has transformed how we understand the modern mind. As the Harvard language, human nature, and the power of reason has transformed
0:37.7	how we understand the modern mind.
0:39.4	As the Harvard professor, psychologist professor, whose newsman is Enlightenment now,
0:43.9	the case for reason, science, humanism, and progress, Stephen Pinker.
0:47.4	A lot of things that seem utterly baffling, puzzling, irrational, I think fall into place
0:52.0	when you understand the role of common knowledge in facilitating human coordination. What is the one cognitive trap that even the smartest people
1:01.1	still fall for? You're listening to The Human Upgrade with Dave Asprey.
1:09.6	How many nights have you stared at the ceiling, counting the hours until morning?
1:14.5	Maybe you try to sleep supplement, but it knocked you out and left you groggy, like you traded one problem for another.
1:21.5	Poor sleep doesn't just make you tired.
1:23.4	It kills your performance, slows your brain down, and speeds up aging.
1:28.0	Kill Switch from Switch supplements solves that problem.
1:31.1	It works with your biology instead of against it.
1:33.9	It contains five gut-friendly, extensively researched ingredients like GABA, magnesium glycinate, and tart cherry extract to help you fall asleep naturally, stay asleep, and wake up
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