Steven Heller

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

Design Matters Media

Arts, Design

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Steven Heller—legendary writer and author—joins to discuss his new book “Growing Up Underground,” an entertaining and humorous coming-of-age story at the center of New York’s youth culture in the 1960s and 1970s.

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0:00.0	Ted Audio Collective
0:07.8	The tabloids were national-enquirer-type things except worse.
0:12.2	They wouldn't run anything related to sex.
0:14.4	They thought sex was dirty, but ice-picked murders were a-okay.
0:19.0	And Goldstein wanted to break that tradition of hypocrisy, and since he was also interested
0:25.9	in getting laid a lot.
0:28.6	He figured the best thing to do was start a sex paper.
0:35.6	From the Ted Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.
0:43.0	For 18 years, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative people about
0:46.9	what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working
0:51.0	on.
0:52.0	On this episode, Stephen Heller reminisces about his days in the hippie porn industry.
0:57.4	That was normal.
0:59.0	Why not start a sex paper?
1:01.0	I was also called the only person in New York that could make a sex paper fail.
1:10.3	True or False?
1:13.4	Stephen Heller came of age in the 1960s and has never done drugs.
1:20.1	Not even marijuana.
1:22.4	Stephen Heller stopped drinking alcohol as a young man when he found himself running through
1:27.8	Greenwich Village in February with his pants off and decided he couldn't handle it anymore.
1:35.0	Stephen Heller worked for the New York Review of Sex and Scrum magazine before becoming
1:39.8	an art director at the very serious New York Times, where he worked for decades.
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