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Yeah, you know what, man, it's something personal.

I'm really, really learning more and more and more about forgiveness.

I'm just learning more and more and more about it.

You know, I've always known that forgiveness is for you,

not so much the other person. Bishop Jake said it best one time. He said not forgiving a person is

like you drank into poison hoping that they die. And that's really what it is when you forgive somebody well

first of all let me start with when you don't forgive somebody let me tell you what happens when

you don't forgive a person every time they name come up it stirs up something in you don't it every time you hear they name come up, it stirs up something in you, don't it?

Every time you hear their name mention, it does something to you.

Every time you run across a picture, it brings up something, don't it?

Every time you hear another story about this person, blah, blah, blah.

Every time you hear some news about them every time

you hear they said something else about you it just keeps on bringing stuff up

even when you sitting around on your own you imagine what you're going to say to them

when you see them oh i know you do because I've been through it

the exact same way. Oh, man, especially, man, when somebody, somebody do something to you

that ain't right and you know it ain't right that's hard man when somebody's sitting around

lying on you and you know the truth but you for whatever the reason can't defend yourself or

wasn't there wasn't available or nobody asked you about it. Hey man, that's tough.

And you sit up and you're talking about, man,

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