Stephen Williams on Vasily Maklakov
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🗓️ 23 February 2018
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Benjamin Wittes speaks to Judge Stephen Williams about his new book "The Reformer: How One Liberal Fought to Preempt the Russian Revolution," the story of Vasily Maklakov and the virtues of political moderation.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.5 | I don't think MacLikoff's pursuit of the center ever had any adverse effects. And I think |
| 0:42.1 | it had mild, limited in the context of extreme polarization, but nephsend effects. So I think |
| 0:50.7 | it can never be wrong to pursue intelligent moderation. I don't mean moderation in the |
| 0:59.0 | sense of splitting the difference, but well thought out ideas that are promising solutions |
| 1:05.7 | to problems. |
| 1:06.9 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast February 24th 2018. |
| 1:14.2 | Steven Williams is a senior judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District |
| 1:19.8 | of Columbia Circuit. In his spare time, he is a historian of reformist movements in |
| 1:26.8 | the Russian pre-revolutionary period. In this latter capacity, he recently published |
| 1:32.5 | a book, The Reformer, How One Liberal Fought to Preempt the Russian Revolution, a book |
| 1:39.0 | about Vasily Maklakov, a lawyer, Duma member and public intellectual who offered his country |
| 1:46.4 | an alternative path from the road it took in 1917. I sat down with Judge Williams to |
| 1:52.6 | talk about Maklakov. We talked about Russia's prospects for reform in 1917 and now about |
| 2:00.8 | political moderation and about the flight to extremes. It's the LawFair podcast episode |
| 2:07.9 | 286, Steven Williams on Vasily Maklakov. |
| 2:14.9 | Who was Vasily Maklakov and why should we be thinking about him today? |
| 2:22.9 | Well if you believe as I do that the greatest challenge posed to humankind is the one |
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