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Conversations with Bill Kristol

Stephen Rosen on the China Challenge

Conversations with Bill Kristol

Conversations with Bill Kristol

News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

How has American strategic analysis and policy planning toward China developed over the last few years? What parallels can we draw between the early Cold War and America’s geopolitical situation today? How has the war in Ukraine affected US-China competition? To discuss these questions we are joined, again, by Stephen Rosen, Harvard professor emeritus of government. Rosen argues that American government and civil society are beginning to take geopolitical competition with China much more seriously. He notes that, much like the Korean War, Putin’s War in Ukraine could serve as a galvanizing event that could lead the US to make the kind of economic and political commitments necessary to deter China in the long term. In a wide-ranging and historically rich Conversation, Rosen explains why talent, technological innovation, and forward-thinking military planning all will be essential for America to meet the China challenge.

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0:00.0

And the Hi, I'm Bill Crystal. Welcome back to Conversations. I'm very pleased to be

0:18.8

joined again today by my old friend Steve Rosen, just retired as a very distinguished popular professor at Harvard,

0:26.4

winter of many teaching awards, a distinguished scholar, but continuing his work in international

0:31.5

relations, foreign policy, beyond Harvard doing work with other

0:37.5

institutions and doing a lot of speaking to and really thinking through this new era in foreign

0:41.8

policy. So Steve, we've had two conversations

0:44.1

in like early 2019, early 2022, both of which stand up well

0:48.0

and I recommend those to people.

0:49.0

But Steve, thanks for joining me again.

0:51.8

Thanks for inviting me, Bill's pleasure to be here.

0:53.9

It's great to have you.

0:54.8

So you, when we last spoke,

0:57.2

you were talking about this new era in American foreign policy,

1:00.7

I guess in the national relations in the world

1:02.4

and how you have many thoughts about it and how you have many thoughts

1:04.6

about it and how important it is to try to get it right as much as we can so what

1:09.4

is this people always say this in your era but I think you have a case that really is a new era, but why is it a new era?

1:15.6

Why isn't it's just people always say it's a new era?

1:18.4

Well, it's a new era, but you can't understand why it's a new era until you look at the old era and looking at the old

1:25.9

area it helps you understand some things that are, some principles or some analytical concepts

1:30.8

that are constantly and something were constantly changed.

1:33.0

I mean, let's go back to the Cold War.

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