When we went out there, we were like, fired up, man.

I'm talking, you know, I would put up this.

I'd put my band up against anybody.

When I first heard you sing, and I first heard your band, I was like, this is different.

Out of the blue, Doug goes, you can't play here anymore into the name Brad.

And I go, why? He goes, makes a club look bad. I was listening to a lot of hard rock at the time, and I remember thinking, this is weird. No, I remember thinking, this is the kind of band I wanted to be in. I still go, wow, this is cool, man. Don't give it away,'ve got to mark it. Yeah, yeah.

Stephen, thank you so much for being here. I've wanted you on my show for so long,

so I'm very honored to have you here. Thank you, brother.

With a rock and roll life, you can jump into any point, but I think with you, the simplest way to do it because there's some musical points I want to get at is to kind of start at the beginning.

San Diego area, late 50s.

Uh, no, that would be, I was born in Long Beach,

but anyway, end up in saying.

There's not a lot of great biographical information about your life.

Yeah, and even in a book, there's another one coming someday,

but I ended up in, you know, Los Angeles and whatever.

I wasn't, I listened to music, but I wasn't.

But I want to talk about your early life, just I'm not trying to catch off.

Yeah, right, right.

Yeah, just give me your early life a bit because, you know, because, you know, for kids like us growing up in Chicago, this part of the world was the magical land.

Right.

You guys had Disneyland.

You had sunshine.

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