When we went out there, we were like, fired up, man. I'm talking, you know, I would put up this. I'd put my band up against anybody. When I first heard you sing and I first heard your fan, I was like, this is different. Out of the blue dug goes, you can't play anymore here anymore into the name Brad. And I go, why? He goes, it makes a club look bad. I was listening a lot of hard rock at the time,

and I remember thinking, this is the way.

No, I remember thinking, this is the kind of band I want

to be in.

I still go, wow, it's cool, man.

Don't give it away, we got to mark it.

Yeah, yeah.

Stephen, thank you so much for being here.

I wanted you on my show for so long. So I'm very honored to have you here. Thank you, brother. With a rock and roll life, you can jump in any point. But I think with you, the simplest way to do it, because there's some musical points I want to get at, is to kind of start at the beginning San Diego area, late 50s. No, that would be, I was born at Long Beach, but anyway, it ends up in singing. There's not a lot of great biographical information about you.

Yeah, and even in the book, there's another one coming someday. But I ended up in, you know, lost an ad you listen, whatever. I wasn't, I listened to music, but wasn't. But I want to talk about your early life. Just I'm not trying to catch off. I'm just saying, right, right. Yeah, just give me your early life a bit because, you know.

Well, so because, you know, for kids like us growing up in Chicago,

this part of the world was the magic. I'm just trying to catch off. I'm just saying. Yeah, right, right. Yeah, just give me your early life a bit, because you know, well, so because, you know,

for kids like us growing up in Chicago,

this part of the world was the magical land.

Right.

You guys had Disneyland, you had this sunshine, we'd have any sunshine or a Disneyland. Yeah. So there's kind of an idealic version we have from the Midwest of what California?

Yes.

So I want you to give me your version as a kid.

Well, Martin, as a kid, God, you go to the beach, sleep overnight, surf, wake up, surf,

like five a.m. some of a

lot of pot. And, you know, you know, hang out, try to get the girls. And it was cool because

you could actually sleep on the beach. And I worry about somebody plummeting you with

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