Stephen Jenkinson - What The F*** Happened?

ManTalks Podcast

Connor Beaton

Relationships, Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.8 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2021

⏱️ 76 minutes

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I’ve been running ManTalks for almost a decade and I’ve met a ton of amazing people who can speak truthfully and bluntly. But no one speaks carries their truth as authentically as Stephen Jenkinson. I find a lot of what Stephen says is medicinal: you might not think it tastes great, but damn if it isn’t what you need to hear. This is a deep dive into why things are the way they are. Fear of submission, love of consumption, death-phobia, the commodification of trauma, endings, what the pandemic tried to tell us, and so much more. This is from a series I produced recently called The Wisdom of Elders, featuring experts on elderhood and culture to discuss what an “elder” actually is, where we are as a species, how we got here, and where we’re headed. Basically, what the f*** happened? Culture activist, teacher, and author, Stephen Jenkinson teaches internationally and is the creator and principal instructor of the Orphan Wisdom School, co-founded with Nathalie Roy in 2010, convening semi-annually in Ontario, and in northern Europe. He has a Masters degree in Theology from Harvard University and a Masters in Social Work from the University of Toronto. Apprenticed to a master storyteller when a young man, he has worked extensively with dying people and their families, was a program director in a major hospital, and an assistant professor in a prominent medical school. He is also a sculptor and traditional canoe builder, whose house won a Governor General’s Award for architecture. Since co-founding Nights of Grief and Mystery with Gregory Hoskins in 2015, he has toured across North America, the U.K., Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. His new book, A Generation’s Worth: Spirit Work While the Crisis Reigns, sets out to learn liveable answers. Dying and death, love and matrimony, money and soul, aging and elderhood, drawn through the eye of a pestilential needle: this is the spirit work, and that is the crisis. https://orphanwisdom.com/a-generations-worth-spirit-work-while-the-crisis-reigns He is also the author of Come of Age: The Case for Elderhood in a Time of Trouble, the award-winning Die Wise: A Manifesto for Sanity and Soul, Homecoming: The Haiku Sessions, How it All Could Be: A Workbook for Dying People and Those Who Love Them (2009), Angel and Executioner: Grief and the Love of Life (a live teaching from 2009), and Money and The Soul’s Desires: A Meditation. He is contributing author to Palliative Care – Core Skills and Clinical Competencies. Stephen Jenkinson is also the subject of the feature-length documentary film Griefwalker, a portrait of his work with dying people, and Lost Nation Road, a shorter documentary on the crafting of the Nights of Grief and Mystery tours. Connect with Stephen: -Website: https://orphanwisdom.com -Latest book: https://orphanwisdom.com/a-generations-worth-spirit-work-while-the-crisis-reigns -Books: https://orphanwisdom.com/shop/ -Griefwalker documentary: https://www.nfb.ca/film/griefwalker/ Did you enjoy the podcast? If so, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or Podchaser. It helps us get into the ears of new listeners, expand the ManTalks Community, and help others find the self-leadership they’re looking for. Are you looking to find purpose, navigate transition, or fix your relationships, all with a powerful group of men from around the world? Check out The Alliance and join me today. Check out our Facebook Page or the Men's community. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify For more episodes visit us at ManTalks.com | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Man Talk Show. I'm Connor Beaton. And joining me today is a guest that has been on the show before. His name is Stephen Jenkinson. And if you didn't have a chance to listen to our last conversation,
0:22.1	I would strongly recommend that you go find it, especially if you enjoy this one. So in this
0:29.0	interview, Stephen and I actually did this interview live. I hosted a series a little while ago
0:35.5	called The Wisdom of Elder's series, and we decided to release
0:38.2	the audio from it, where I brought together elders to talk about our current times, the challenges
0:43.7	that we're facing societally, culturally, and Stephen is one of the most profound orators, in my
0:53.0	opinion. He has a master's degree from Harvard University
0:55.6	in theology. He has a university degree from the University of Toronto in social work. And he spent
1:03.8	years and years and years in what he refers to as the death trade, supporting people who were at the very end of their life and palliative care.
1:13.6	So in this conversation, we don't necessarily talk about death.
1:17.6	We talk about mentorship.
1:19.6	We talk about the culture and the society that we're living in
1:23.6	and what's causing the erosion of the social fabric and the cultural fabric that we inhabit.
1:32.0	And Stephen does a very good job of describing our modern times through the view of somebody
1:38.2	who has lived many decades and has seen a few different generations come to pass. And he does a good job of
1:46.8	describing what a lot of men are going through right now and how we can, as individuals, as men,
1:55.2	as husbands, as fathers, as leaders, but also as women step into a more robust understanding of the changing times
2:04.3	and how we ready ourselves for not only the future, but how we ready ourselves for the present
2:11.3	that we are inhabiting. Because for many people, one of the challenges that they are struggling
2:15.9	with is that their current reality, the current present challenges that they are struggling with is that their current reality,
2:19.0	the current present moment that they are inhabiting is very challenging to deal with.
2:24.5	And when we face these kinds of challenges, socially, politically, with our governments,
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