So folks, hang on to your hats, hang on to your point of view, hang on to your perspective,

hang on to your loved ones, hang on to your cup of coffee, your glass of wine.

You're about to enter true crime from a police perspective.

You're about to enter the off-the-cuff zone, the police off-the-cuff zone.

Thank you. zone the police off the cuff zone that has to be some common sense yes sir they have. They have the car stop intended to branch, Michael Byther.

We still don't know who joining me tonight.

I'm going to get him right on the show quickly because he's an important component of this show.

Retired NYPD Sergeant, criminal justice professor at Alberta Magnus College in Connecticut,

attorney, welcome to the show, Professor Sergeant Michael Geary.

Hey, Mike.

Bill, good evening. Good to see you. Welcome everyone to the chat. Welcome.

You know, Mike, I think everyone likes to see you jumping into this because they realize you're the voice of reason.

I can go off the edge once in a while, but that's all right.

I try. I try. You need some emotion and you bring it back down. Anyway, Mike, we're going to listen tonight

to Stefan Stearns' parents. And we'll even compare some of the interview with the parents

with some of the other recordings we had, the police recordings we have. You know,

one of the things that I note that when

we listen to Stefan Stern speak about his parents, and one of the interviews, he was like,

you know, they're, they're, they're losing their hearing. They're like preparing for the end

of their life. They don't look like two people in this thumbnail that are preparing for the end of

their life. They look like two people that are living their life. And if anyone's preparing for

the end of the life, it's this guy on the left, your thoughts. Bill, yeah, when you hear him talk to

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