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#StateThinking: Searching For post war. @MaryKissel Former Senior Adviser to the Secretary of State. Executive VP Stephens Inc.

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🗓️ 27 November 2024

⏱️ 6 minutes

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#StateThinking: Searching For post war. @MaryKissel Former Senior Adviser to the Secretary of State. Executive VP Stephens Inc.
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0:00.0

This is CBS. I on the world. I'm John Batchel with my friend and colleague, Mary Kissel,

0:08.7

Executive Vice President Stevenson, Incorporated, former senior advisor to the Secretary of State.

0:13.6

Ukraine. Over these last days, President of the United States giving permission to Ukraine to use

0:20.1

the attack him's weapon system at long reign.

0:24.0

In response, Mr. Putin made announcements that the Duma had lowered the threshold, so-called,

0:30.1

of use of nuclear weapons in contest with NATO.

0:33.3

Mary, this looks like escalation.

0:35.8

To what end?

0:37.2

I think Vladimir Putin is sending the incoming Trump administration a message that he has deterred President Biden, and he intends to maintain a strong hand, even as President Trump and his team want to push him to the negotiating table.

0:54.2

And whether or not that ship cutting cables, that Chinese ship was working in concert with Russia,

0:59.0

we just don't know.

0:59.8

That's not public information, as you say.

1:02.9

But certainly the incoming Trump team faces a far more complicated and dangerous situation,

1:09.1

whether in the Middle East or in Ukraine, because the Biden team

1:14.0

eroded U.S. deterrence and U.S. enemies like China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, have started

1:20.8

working together in earnest publicly. They were doing it a bit in the past, but it was always hidden.

1:26.9

But now it's not even hidden.

1:28.2

That's how confident they feel.

1:30.0

So it's a very complex environment, and I think very different to the environment externally

1:37.0

that President Trump inherited in 2016.

1:39.5

There is a great deal of talk that Mr. Trump in office will seek to move to a negotiated settlement in Ukraine,

1:48.5

the conditions of which have been floating around for months, years, perhaps.

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