I'm Rebecca LaVoy and this is Undisclosed Addendum.

You may know me from my podcast Crime Raiders On where we talk about true crime and true

crime podcasts and TV shows, but you also might know me as one of the team who makes Undisclosed.

I work with the audio of the team since me to put together what you actually hear week to week,

and along the way I come up with a lot of opinions and questions of my own about the cases

covered on the podcast. On this episode of Addendum, we're going to be talking about the final

episode in the Ronnie Long series on Undisclosed. Long has been imprisoned for 42 years,

for burglary and rape in Concord, North Carolina, and he says he didn't commit that crime.

In the series finale, we heard why his current legal situation is unique and how it compares to

the famous thought experiment called Schrodinger's Cat. We've got some really special guests to dive

into that conundrum and a whole lot more about this case. So our first guest is Jamie Laugh,

Professor Laugh is the current attorney for Ronnie Long and the supervising attorney for the Duke

Law, Wrongful Convictions Clinic. Previously, he worked for the North Carolina Innocence Inquiry

Commission, investigating post-conviction claims of innocence. Jamie, thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me. It's great to be here. It is great. It's also great to have you because we've

been listening to you in this series and you'll be able to just like directly answer questions about

some of the WTF things that we heard about in this case. So I'm really happy that you're here.

There's plenty of WTF moments. It's a technical term. It's a legal term. It's like a whole like

WTF course in law school, right, Colin? It's not the create one. Our second guest is Alison

Sweeney. She's an award-winning actress known for days of our lives and the biggest loser.

And recently, it was announced that she will executive produce and star in the chronicle mysteries

for hallmark movies and mysteries as Robbie McPherson, a first-time podcaster pursuing the cold

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