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Red Lines

State of the Union

Red Lines

BBC

Government

4.478 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Andrea Catherwood and Allan Little chat constitutional change in Scotland and NI

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0:00.0

When Boris Johnson became Prime Minister back in July 2019, he created an additional role for himself.

0:06.2

Minister for the Union, too, as he put it, emphasised his commitment to strengthening the bond

0:11.0

between the countries of the United Kingdom.

0:13.4

Two years on, the public debate about the unravelling of the UK is rarely out of the headlines

0:18.6

and nowhere more so than in Scotland and here in Northern Ireland.

0:22.6

So on this week's red lines, we're discussing

0:24.6

why it is that the ties that bind the UK together

0:27.6

are under so much pressure

0:29.6

and how likely deep-seated constitutional change is

0:32.6

for Edinburgh and Belfast in the years ahead.

0:35.6

Alan, why do we keep coming back to this issue

0:38.8

in our public conversation time and again?

0:41.9

Well, certainly because in Scotland,

0:44.6

pro-independence parties keep getting elected.

0:46.4

They've been running the devolved administration now

0:48.4

for 14 years, and they got elected most recently

0:52.2

with a majority for independence

0:54.0

in the Scottish Parliament in May.

0:55.4

And so it won't go away.

0:56.2

And, you know, I'm struck by the gap in understanding between the public discourse here compared to Whitehall and Westminster.

1:04.9

And I include my own colleagues in BBC News.

1:07.4

This hasn't suddenly come out of anywhere.

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