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Ladies and gentlemen, starting strength radio welcome back to starting

strength radio it's Friday and so are we or something like that and we're here

today with our friend Ben Gellinwater Ben is a, he's got quite an interesting background in

privacy and security and dark world shit and and, and we're going to talk to Ben about

privacy. We and you use the internet and privacy is a concern. And if it's not, it should be.

So we're going to talk to Ben today about this, and we're going to pick his brain about

these topics, and hopefully all of us will learn something. Ben, thanks for being here.

Yeah, thanks for having me, Rip.

What's your background?

Let's get the bona fides out of the way so people will know that you know.

Yeah, that makes sense.

So, gosh, I've been a computer guy my whole life.

So starting at the age of 14, I was selling computers at a store because I just liked

looking at him and talking about him.

And I eventually found my way into being the computer guy for a big division of Northrop Grumman's.

So Northrop Grumman is a U.S. defense contractor.

And I found myself in the position of providing

advice to people and organizations around security specifically. So I spent about a year in a security

group thinking about nothing but cybersecurity and digital security and how to protect our

customers. So North of Grumman, about a quarter of its business at the time, and this was in, I was

in the security group in 2007, about a quarter of its business was IT.

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