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C.K. at UK. forward slash promotions for details. Hi. Hi, it's Andy here and welcome to Radio Headspace and to Thursday morning.

Now a few weeks back I had a good fortune to speak to an old friend of mine and it's one of those friends who you know you don't necessarily see them that often in life

But whenever you do get the chance to either see them or speak to them you feel happy, really energized by the experience.

Actually, Marcus might be listening this morning. Hi, Marcus, if you are.

Marcus lives over in Switzerland and is surrounded by these amazing mountains and countryside

and recently has been taking a lot of walks

often out on sort of these trails where you don't necessarily see too many other people.

And he was describing to me a walk that he took recently where he was going up a path where it became increasingly unsteady perhaps even a little bit dangerous and how he started to see signs saying

This path is unstable maybe don't go any further.

You would have thought those signs were enough sort of warning

to maybe turn around and go back down,

but he decided to sort of carry on anyway.

And he said, as he continued he's got to found himself becoming increasingly

caught up in thinking so there was a sense of look you know he's still fairly young

he has a young family he he cares for his life.

And he also found himself sort of worrying about his predicament.

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