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Politics Weekly UK

Starmer takes the gloves off in fight with Farage

Politics Weekly UK

The Guardian

Politics, News

4.01.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The UK prime minister has used his conference speech to take aim at Nigel Farage, warning that Reform UK offers only ‘division and decline’ while promising ‘renewal’ and ‘decency’ under Labour. John Harris, Pippa Crerar and Kiran Stacey talk through the speech and ask if it could help to turn things around for Keir Starmer. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:10.2

We are at the Labour Party conference where Kirstama has said that he, his party and the rest of us,

0:15.8

are in the middle of a massively important moment.

0:18.9

We can all see that the country faces a choice, a defining choice.

0:23.6

Britain stands at a fork in the road.

0:26.6

We could choose decency or we can choose division.

0:31.6

Are we finally saying the Prime Minister getting the hang of political leadership

0:34.6

of pulling his party out of crisis? Or are people still

0:38.7

thinking about giving the job to someone else? Someone has to speak up for some of the ideas

0:44.7

that we need to have that plan to be reform. At a time when politics is being transformed,

0:49.8

old-fashioned party conferences feel increasingly out of date. But as ever, we've come here so you don't have to. I'm John Harris and you're listening to Politics Weekly UK for The Guardian. With me today on our makeshift office, which is really just four chairs and some rucksacks, are my Politics Weekly co-hosts, our political editor, Pippa Kriara, and our policy editor, Kira and Stacey.

1:11.1

Hello.

1:11.5

Hello.

1:12.1

Hi, John.

1:12.6

We are all still standing. Just. Just about. Let's talk about Kirstama's speech and a kind of snap reaction, I suppose. How do we think it came across? I think that was slightly better than I expected. they're always about a third too long from my perspective

1:28.7

but we're the only people on earth really

1:30.8

who have to watch. I think that was slightly better than I expected. They're always about a third too long from my

1:28.4

perspective, but we're the only people on earth, really, who have to watch the whole thing.

1:32.7

So it shouldn't really be judged like that. And I think his people will think it was a success.

1:37.7

I think they do. I was in the hall and certainly, as far as the delegates were concerned in there,

1:43.3

there was loads of standing ovations,

1:44.6

loads of cheering, happy faces. It was never going to be a speech which either turned around

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