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Hello and welcome to Coffey House shots The Spectators Daily Politics

Podcast. I'm Oscar Edmondson and I'm joined today by Katie Bald and Isabel Hartman.

And we had a pretty fiery PMQs today. It was foreign policy that Ritchie-Sou-Nac press the Prime Minister on.

Katie, one of the things that came up was China and Labour's supposed China reset,

something that you wrote about for the cover of the magazine last week.

Did you see this one coming then?

It's just great to know that Rishi Sunak reads the spectator.

And I mean, I think in fairness, the fact that David Lammy is visiting China this week does mean that

Labour's relationship to China is going to receive more scrutiny. And in the cover piece I wrote for the issue which

is about to be last week's issue as we just sent the newest you to press.

I talked about some of the ways where yes yes, Labour is still talking quite tough and saying,

oh, you know, we're not going to kowtow to China.

But you look at some of the other actions, the fact that Lammy is going there this week,

Rachel Reeves wants to go there in January, Kistama has reached

out to say that he wants to have better relations.

And it does feel as though there is a softening at the very least underway.

Now the foreign office shudder when you say reset

they want to say reset in relation to Brussels, they don't want to say reset in relation

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