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Hello and

welcome to Coffey House shots The Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Oscar Jensen and I'm joined by Katie Balls and Michael Gove.

So are we about to see the first big labor U-turn.

In an interview with the BBC's Henry Zefman, the Prime Minister failed to rule out a rise

in employers' national insurance contributions, seemingly backtracking on a manifesto promise.

Let's hear the clip.

Did your manifesto rule out increasing any rate of national insurance, employers or employees,

or was it merely talking about ruling out increasing the employees rate?

We were very clear in the manifesto that we wouldn't be increasing tax on working people

and we expressly said that that was income tax that was nicks etc so we set that out in the

manifesto just for employees well it's very clear from my manifesto that what

we were saying is we're not going to raise tax for working people and it wasn't just the manifesto

We said it repeatedly in the campaign and we intend to keep the promises that we made in a manifesto

So Casey can Rachel Reeves get away with a national insurance hike?

So it's an interesting situation we find ourselves in where labour seems to be heavily hinting

as to a few things that we're expecting in the budget at the

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