soda, all that stuff.

It's so unbelievably changed that, you know, when we remember, you know, honey,

Lockaparrow.

And then, you know, I was 15 years running an operation in Oak Hammock Marsh, which is

Oh, yeah.

So that's, you know, that's those, those birds, the EPP flock, Eastern Prairie population,

you know, they go right from Churchill to Okamick.

They'll stage there right to Lock Loparo, and then they went right from Lock Loparo straight to Swan Lake, Missouri.

I mean, that's what they did.

And I mean, there's none of that is true now, you know, other than Okamick.

And now O'Kamick um in and now o camic will hold a hundred thousand birds and the city of winnipeg holds you know 350 000 if

winnipeg was north of o'camic o'camic would have none yeah it's just like chicago and southern

illinois i mean it would have just you know wiped it out yeah. I mean, it would have just, you know, wiped it out. Yeah. So, I mean, nothing's like that, you know, and now all those birds that

were in Sumner, Missouri, you know, I mean, that whole EPP flock, well, now it's in Kansas City,

or it's in Des Moines. That's, I mean, if it's a nice enough winter, they'll stay in Des Moines, they won't push. If the weather's bad, they'll push to Kansas City, and if the weather's really bad, then they'll push to southeast Kansas. But, I mean,

nothing's the same. And nothing stays the same. It's going to change. Everything changes.

Keeps changing. That's the only guarantee is that it's going to change. You're going to get

whatever you're going to get for a few years, and then the dynamic, whatever's going to change. You're going to get whatever you're going to get for a few years and then the dynamic.

Whatever's going to change. It's going to change.

Well, I think that's a pretty famous saying, right, about anything. The only constant is change.

Absolutely. There you go.

Very wise words from Stan Goosey. One of our two special guests on here today.

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