This is a CBSI on the world. I'm John Bachelor. It is January 2021. The professor and her family are in the Adelaide Hills and in the distance is a fire.

A fire that may or may not approach, but the important thing here is what about the mammals,

what about the marsupials, what about the mammals what about the marsupials what about everybody in that

forest and this part of the book is very hard to read Daniel because the way you

introduce it we know bad things are going to happen.

What is the remedy for the koala?

Do they have anything that can happen because you describe one scene where the koalas are in the tree in a funeral

pyre they can't escape is that is that the fate of koalas and fires yes it has fires are a natural and intrinsic part of Australia's ecology now, particularly

the eucalypt forests are highly flammable and over the last 100,000 years fires have become a very constant part of the environment.

So a lot of species have adaptations to fire, but at an

individual level they're still very devastating. So when fires come through an area

it is difficult for koowalis to escape and particularly when they're fierce fires so

we need to distinguish between cool fires as we call them and intense fires so when a fire burns lightly through the vegetation it might just

it's it's it's very it just burns the undergrowth and collars would be

relatively safe from that up in their trees.

But the trouble with a lot of many of the changes in our climate and also the changes in

our land management is that we're no longer having those small cool blends.

We tend to have no no fires and then really, really intense hot fires,

which burn right up into the canopy. And of course course there's no escape for koalas from that.

Sometimes they can escape down into cool gullies if they get enough warning of

them know if they're aware of what's going on and can escape but if they're up the trees

there's no escape for them which leads to a lot of koala deaths.

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