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My guess in this episode is a very good sport. Such a good sport that it really reaffirms

my conviction that meditation is good for you. Her name is Spring Washing and if you read

my book, if you haven't read my book, it's available at find book stores everywhere.

But if you read my book, you met her in the chapter where I go on a 10 day silent meditation

retreat. She was one of the meditation teachers presiding over what I call day Zen Death

March. In the chapter, I make fond of Spring in a pretty unsuddle way. Here's what I say,

quote, spring, who appears to be at some indeterminate point in her 30s is the embodiment

of everything that most bothers me about the meditation world. She's really working

that speaking softly thing. Every S is sibilant. Every word is overennunciated. She wears

shawls. She's probably really militant about recycling. Now in my defense and in Spring's

defense, really, she does go on to become the hero of the chapter. She's the one who gives

me key advice at a low point in my practice that allows me to have something of a breakthrough.

Nonetheless, I was pretty peacont in my description of her. So, and I was worried about that. So

before the book came out, I actually tracked Spring down. We didn't really know each other.

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