4.6 • 8.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Today we have the honor of speaking with Pulitzer Prize-winning author and the mastermind behind the podcast Bone Valley, Gilbert King. Known for his deep dives into the complexities of criminal justice, Gilbert has spent years unraveling the haunting story of Leo Schofield, a man wrongfully convicted for the murder of his wife.
In this fascinating bonus episode, we discuss the emotional toll of telling such a gripping and complex story, the challenges of turning a multi-decade case into a podcast, and what it’s like working with the very people involved in these crimes. From Leo's resilience in the face of a wrongful conviction to the unexpected twists in season two involving Jeremy Scott, Gilbert shares behind-the-scenes insights into the making of Bone Valley.
We also explore the emotional journey of forgiveness and redemption, and the powerful relationships that have emerged from this case, like the bond between Leo and Jeremy. Through the raw interviews and complex storytelling, Gilbert reveals what it was like to uncover layers of truth that had been buried for years.
You won’t want to miss this heartfelt conversation about justice, the human side of crime stories, and the impact of storytelling in shedding light on the truth.
Listen to Bone Valley now, wherever you get your podcasts.
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0:00.0 | Hey guys, and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast, a true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and my dear friend Melissa. |
0:07.0 | Hi, Melissa. Hi, Mandy. How are you? I am doing well. How are you today, Melissa? |
0:12.1 | I'm good, but I say skip the pleasantries. Let's get right into it because we have the guest of our lifetimes, honestly, here. |
0:20.5 | Listen to any of our other guests, Gilbert. |
0:22.1 | We've never said that about any of them. |
0:24.5 | And I feel bad for anyone that comes on after this. |
0:28.2 | But we have the man of the hour of the year, just the coolest guy in the entire world, Mr. Pulitzer Prize winning, Gilbert King. |
0:36.7 | I can't. |
0:37.0 | How do I follow that? That's just too nice. Thank you. It's great winning Gilbert King. I can't. How do I follow that? |
0:37.8 | That's just too nice. |
0:39.0 | Thank you. |
0:39.6 | It's great to be here. |
0:41.3 | Thank you so much. |
0:42.4 | We are so excited to have you here and beyond just your Pulitzer Prize winning work. |
0:47.0 | You have created this incredible podcast, Bone Valley, that I spent much of 2022, I think it was, completely immersed in. |
0:58.2 | All I talked was Leo. All I wanted to talk about was, you know, somebody else did this. |
1:04.4 | He never did this. You know, I just wanted to talk about it all the time. Twitter was a buzz. |
1:09.6 | It was everywhere. And it's so incredible to talk to you. And we just want to |
1:13.8 | talk to you a little about the podcast for people who live under rocks and may not have heard of it or have |
1:20.5 | listened to it just yet. And, you know, how it came to be. Yeah. You know, I can talk about it all day. |
1:26.6 | And I just say something, I have to |
1:28.8 | say this. Like, I love writing books, but this world was so different to me because most of the |
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