Spotify unwrapped w/ Liz Pelly
Politics Theory Other
Politics Theory Other
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🗓️ 3 December 2025
⏱️ 96 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other. |
| 0:32.3 | My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Liz Pelly. |
| 0:35.8 | In 2006, the music streaming service Spotify, founded by |
| 0:39.9 | Swedish entrepreneurs Daniel Eck and Martin Lorenzon, was launched in the context of widespread |
| 0:45.5 | music piracy and file sharing and declining profits for the music majors. Presenting themselves |
| 0:51.6 | first and foremost as music fans who were intent on saving the music industry |
| 0:56.1 | and creating a seamless listener experience for users, Spotify has since gone on to become the |
| 1:01.5 | dominant music streaming platform, far eclipsing any of its rivals, and making Echin-Lorentz |
| 1:06.7 | on billionaires. While initially lauded by the music press and tech media, Spotify's reputation |
| 1:12.7 | has significantly declined, as understanding of how little most musicians receive from streaming |
| 1:17.6 | has become more widespread, and as Spotify has courted controversy by populating some of its |
| 1:22.7 | playlists with so-called perfect fit content. Stock music produced for Spotify in order to reduce the |
| 1:29.4 | amount of royalties, the company pays to rights holders. And by introducing Discovery Mode, |
| 1:34.5 | a program that increases the prominence of artists' tracks on Spotify playlists in return for a reduced |
| 1:40.0 | royalty rate, what many critics have described as a modern-day version of the Paola radio scandals. |
| 1:46.7 | My guest today, Liz Pelly, has done more than most to bring to light practices such as these, |
| 1:51.2 | and to challenge the myth-making that Spotify's founders have engaged in, in order to portray the |
| 1:56.1 | company as being on the side of musicians and music fans. We spoke about the early years of Spotify as it |
| 2:02.1 | emerged in the context of mass file sharing and as the major music labels were coming to see Sweden |
| 2:07.3 | as a lost market, making it ripe as a site for experimentation with streaming. We went on to talk about |
| 2:14.0 | how Spotify is shaping the user habits of listeners and about the damaging |
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