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Today explained, Rama's firm. We talk a lot about powerful Joe's on the show lately. There's

obviously White House President Joe Biden. There's of course Senate President Joe Manchin.

And then there's the President of podcasts Joe Rogan.

As you've surely heard by now, an old man named Neil Young got very mad at Joe Rogan and the

company that distributes his podcast Spotify, which subsequently lost something like a couple

billion dollars of its market value. This past week, the situation kind of boiled over.

Ashley Carmen has been covering the story and breaking news about it for the merch Joe Rogan

is signed exclusively to Spotify. And this past week, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and a bunch of

others have started speaking out about them being uncomfortable with Spotify distributing his show

and then Neil Young and Joni Mitchell specifically pulled their music from the platform in protest.

We started with how Spotify got its hands on Joe's show.

Joe Rogan has been podcasting for years. Good to see you, buddy. What's going on?

Good to see you too, sir. It's fucking awesome to have you come down here again.

Always, always a good time. Notably, he's a YouTube podcaster. That's how most people

found him know him. He's like associated with YouTube. Not because they paid him just because

he used the platform as the place he mainly distributed his show. It wasn't available actually

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