It's never a question for me if I'm going to do something. If I want to do something, I'm going to do it.

And that's how I feel about everything I go about in life. So if I want to be at the highest level at Sports Center and if I want to do a particular show

then I will reach out to whichever Boston might be and say hey this is what I'm

going to do because what do we have to lose if we wait to and just

keep to ourselves what we want to do then we're betting against ourselves from the

very beginning. Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervais. The idea behind these conversations

is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery, to better understand what they're searching for

and to understand their psychological framework,

which is how they see the world, how they see themselves in it, and how they understand their craft.

And we want to dig to understand the mental skills that they've used to build and refine their craft.

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