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Bulwark Takes

Sports Were America’s Last Politics-Free Safe Space (w/ Pablo Torre)

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Tim Miller and Pablo Torre take on the White House calling Tim an Iranian propagandist, how Trump colonized American sports culture—from SEC stadiums to the White House lawn—and why Democrats keep fumbling the ball on sports politics.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey guys, when I was in New York, I did a substack chat with Pablo Torre. Yeah, it's kind of a casual vibe.

0:07.1

Like, we're substackers, we're bloggers, we're news, we're bloggers, we're newsletters. They gave us a little

0:10.1

poof to sit on. It's hard to figure out how to sit on this thing. So, you know, be nice to me. I was trying crisscross applesauce.

0:16.7

You know, I was man spreading.

0:17.9

I was laying.

0:18.6

I was sitting.

0:19.5

But it was just casual.

0:20.5

Nice little chat.

0:21.2

Pablo's doing such great work over at Palletory finds out.

0:23.5

And we talked a lot about You know, I was man spreading, I was laying, I was sitting. But it was just casual, nice little chat.

0:21.6

Pablo's doing such great work over at Pobulatory Finds out.

0:23.6

And we talked a lot about kind of like the industry, the content industry, how we do what we do.

0:29.6

I asked him about, you know, the man hours he's putting in, how he navigates doing investigations while also, you know, talking about what's on the news and what's,

0:39.4

you know, in the chatter day to day. And then we get into kind of the sports and politics

0:43.8

overlap, which is his specialty and kind of like how we got to this place where everything is so

0:49.6

politicized by sports and, you know, how Donald Trump ruins everything so stick around for that me and

0:56.0

Pablo it was great subscribe to the feed how do you sit on a poof like Jabba the hut

1:03.0

how do you sit on a poof without looking good thing I'm gay how do you sit on a poof as

1:07.1

as as a unrepentantly straight male I'm gonna be as poppish as I can can you do

1:15.6

full Indian style we don't do Indian style anymore we don't do cross applesau can you do that

1:21.0

I crisscross applesauce can you do that I crisscross applesauce do we want to start with what the

1:24.3

White House is saying about you in the last day? Yeah, probably. I just saw it.

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