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4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Relentless, host Kristen Meinzer is joined by, not one, but two fearless Michelles who know that to be a successful leader, you need to take risks and have a strong support system.  First, she speaks with Michelle “Mace” Curran, a former F-16 fighter pilot and the second woman to fly as Lead Solo in the Air Force Thunderbirds. Now an entrepreneur, Curran has made it her mission to empower others to make bold and brave choices. Afterwards, Kristen talks with Michelle Fermin, Team Lead of the Fermin Group at Century 21 North East. An expert, on-the-ground team builder, Fermin shares her secret to being a good leader: inspire and be inspired by those around you. Guests Michelle “Mace” Curran: Combat Veteran, Former Thunderbird & Fighter Pilot Michelle Fermin: Team Lead of the Fermin Group, Century 21 North East  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey there culturegab fest listeners, Kristen Minds are here host of The Relentless,

0:05.2

a podcast from Century 21 Real Estate and Slate Studios. If you liked a certain adrenaline-filled

0:11.7

action movie with F-16s, we think you'll enjoy this episode. It features former fighter pilot

0:18.2

Michelle Mace Curran. Michelle completed combat missions around the world and flew with the

0:23.8

Air Force Thunderbirds, performing aerial maneuvers for millions of spectators.

0:29.1

In our conversation, she talks about pushing limits, managing fear, and how she's transferred

0:35.1

over those fighter pilot skills to her new career as an entrepreneur. We hope you enjoy,

0:41.1

and if you like what you hear, find The Relentless wherever you get your podcasts.

0:45.9

This paid podcast is a partnership between Slate Studios and Century 21 Real Estate.

0:51.2

All uses of trademarks or brands are not meant to convey sponsorship or affiliation of this podcast.

0:57.6

From Century 21 Real Estate, this is The Relentless, the podcast that looks at sales differently.

1:06.1

As entrepreneurs, we write our own playbooks. When we're thrown off course, when assumptions

1:11.4

hold us back, we find a way to move fearlessly in a different direction. I'm Kristen Minds are,

1:18.3

I'm an author, entrepreneur, and podcast host. And in a world filled with noise, there's a super

1:24.5

power I've developed that's helped me more than anything else. Never letting fear get in the way.

1:31.4

That means building up confidence, taking risks, and tackling the really hard problems.

1:37.2

And that's what we're exploring this season. How can we move fearlessly in a world filled with

1:42.8

potential obstacles? Get ready to meet the people who transform what scares them into something that

1:49.7

inspires them. It's time to move fearlessly and stay relentless.

2:03.2

I'm Michelle Kern. I also go by Mace. I'm a former F-16 combat fighter pilot and former

2:09.2

Thunderbird pilot. If there's anyone who knows how to move fearlessly, it is Michelle Kern.

2:16.4

She flew 160 combat hours in Afghanistan. It's a job where advanced preparations mean everything.

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