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When you're not picturing the scene that David Gilbert walked into at the Ahern Hotel in Las Vegas a few months back.

David is a reporter over at Wired and the scene he described to me it sounded kind of like a carnival.

I walked in and there was a lot of concession stands, I guess, vendors selling Trump

t-shirts and there was people selling buckets of food that

preppers would use and throughout the day it was just speaker after speaker after speaker on stage for 12 hours in total.

You know when I picture a conference I picture like

lanyards and breakout sessions is that what this was? This wasn't that. Like I remember one of the first people that came up to me was a woman dressed in high heels and

you know makeup on and fully dressed up as if she was going out for the night and she had her little dog on a leash and she was going around to the tables handing out her business card.

It turns out she's a sovereign citizen lawyer. Now sovereign citizens are people who believe

that the actual law and the US doesn't apply to them and therefore you know they if they get a

speeding ticket they ignore it because they don't believe it's it's valid.

And she felt right at home with a bunch of sheriffs?

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