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AMEN PODCAST

Spiritual Maturity

AMEN PODCAST

Alex and Lokelani Wilson

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

5.02.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

This video explores the concept of spiritual maturity through the lens of child development, specifically "object permanence." The speaker draws a parallel between a baby's realization that their parent still exists even when out of sight, and a believer's dependence on God.

He argues that true spiritual maturity isn't about independence, but rather about recognizing our need for God and relying on Him. He uses personal anecdotes about his children and his own relationship with his father to illustrate this point.

The video concludes with a call to embrace dependence on God and find joy in that relationship.



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0:00.0

What's up you guys? Me and my wife on the way home with the kids from Costco, we're talking about the fact that baby live doesn't have this thing called object permanence.

0:13.0

It's something that child psychologists estimate they get around like six to nine months.

0:19.2

But basically it means like when the mom or the dad walk

0:24.6

away, especially the mom from the baby, the baby thinks that, you know, in a way the mom is dead.

0:32.0

You know, the baby, the newborn doesn't know that the mom still exist when the baby can't see the mom.

0:40.3

And then around six to nine months they start to realize, okay, yeah, mom is just, you know,

0:44.3

somewhere else right now, but my mom is still alive and exists.

0:48.3

It made me think about 1st Corinthians 3-2 that says, I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it.

0:56.5

And even now, you are not ready.

0:59.0

This is Paul talking to the Corinthian Church.

1:02.1

And he had just got word that this church, that he was a major factor and jump starting it, was having a lot of problems they were you know one guy was

1:12.7

having sex with a stepmom uh there was uh this division between the jewish Christians and then the

1:20.1

non-jewish Christians over should they eat food that had been sacrificed to idols there There was a lot going on, a lot of divisions,

1:29.0

a lot of problems. And so he's writing to them saying, hey, guys, like, when I was there, I was

1:32.7

giving you milk because you were baby Christians, baby believers, but I wish I could give you solid

1:38.3

food now, but based on your behavior and what I'm hearing about, it's not so. Is there a point where baby live is going to grow out of her object permanence?

1:50.6

And she's going to get that trait and she's going to be able to be like, okay, yeah, I'm a little more

1:54.4

independent from my mom now I can do things on my own.

1:57.4

Of course.

1:58.7

But you know what's funny?

2:00.1

There's a thing called secure attachment.

2:02.6

My older kids, my older kids, they have that. I mean, we have basically, for the majority of

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