Today on The Grave Talks, we continue our conversation about spirits behind bars with author Steve E. Asher.

Now, with the penitentiary, you know, would you share a story that kind of seems to be one that, you know, there's different stories.

There's some that you can't, well, I don't think we can actually prove a lot of paranormal stories, of course.

But there's some that just have more credibility than others.

Is there any of that kind of stand out to you that you found you were hearing the same stories from different people?

Well, the Kelly Malls,

incident, as I had mentioned, was one of them. He was kind of a rabble rouser. For me, the moral of it

is just because this, let's say whatever, most of us were, I know I was alive before a lot of the internet and all that.

So most of my goofy stuff happened off camera.

So, but if all a person knows about you, this one thing, that's not all one person is.

Good, bad, or indifferent.

So it's not elevate or demonize.

But this guy was kind of a heck raiser and partier and different. So it's not elevate or demonize. But this guy was kind of a

heck raiser and partier

and drunk and, you know, he

would get into it with his wife and back and forth.

Well, his mom had remarried

and he had a stepdad. And he was always

nively and I'm in his stepdad for money.

Well, finally the old man

put his foot down said, nope, we're done with that.

I think it was like 30-something years old.

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