Hi everybody welcome to shift a podcast about mobility I'm Pete Bigelow your

host and reporter at the Automotive News.

Hi, Leslie Allen, editor of Shift magazine.

And Alexa St. John, covering tech and suppliers.

Our guest on the podcast today is Kay Chang, head of policy initiatives at

Spin, the Micro Mobility subsidiary of Ford. Before we get to Kaye though,

Alexa, I know you have been working on a story about this very topic,

micro mobility. What's going on? What's the latest and what have you learned?

What I've been really interested in looking at is, you know, amid reports of so many people moving out of cities into suburbs, you know needing more space because of the pandemic.

At the same time we're seeing a lot of cities implementing more mobility and micro mobility infrastructure.

And so I was curious how those two dynamics kind of play out.

I mean, we're seeing obviously riders nervous about using public and

shared transportation because of COVID and so city planners and mobility

providers in response have really been scrambling to provide all

affordable and sustainable alternatives that don't really require the use of

shared spaces and so you know what we're seeing right now is even though there is a small

portion of people moving out of cities maybe not necessarily using some of the

new mobility infrastructure that's being put into place.

Experts really expect these types of things, so bike lanes,

more pedestrian-friendly, walkways, less room on the roads essentially for vehicles. Those things they expect to stay in the long term.

So are you saying that there is still, and I can't wait to hear what our guests has to say about that, but viability

for scooters and other types of devices that go from hand to hand bicycles and things like that. There's still some life left in those types of modes of transportation.

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