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🗓️ 23 July 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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In this episode, Sarah and Beth talk about their feelings of powerlessness and frustration at how the system feels unresponsive right now. They also reflect on the Cincinnati live event and how we try to avoid a consumption model in our events. Plus, they share how they are thinking about our production as we head into a short summer break.
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0:00.0 | Lemonada. |
0:05.9 | Hi everyone. This is Elise, the managing director of Pantsuit Politics. Every week, you get two |
0:11.4 | free episodes of Pantsuit Politics on Tuesdays and Fridays. What you may not know is that Sarah |
0:16.6 | and Beth also record a shorter third episode for our premium members every week. This spicy bonus |
0:22.0 | episode is where they let loose a little bit more than the main show. Get out their hot takes. |
0:26.8 | Their feelings are often more raw. Their conversation often has a little bit more heat to it. |
0:31.4 | This week, we wanted to share that spicy bonus episode with everyone. That's what you're about to hear. |
0:35.9 | This episode, like many of our spicy episodes, is explicit, so heads up if you have little ears around. If you enjoy this type of conversation from Sarah and Beth, we hope you'll join us as a paid subscriber on Substack. Being part of the Spice Cabinet, as we lovingly refer to our paid subscribers, gets you access to this weekly spicy bonus episode, as well as Sarah and Beth's two premium shows. |
0:55.2 | Good morning and more to say. Plus access to the comments, extras like our film club, our chat, so much more. |
1:01.9 | In the episode you're about to hear, Sarah and Beth talk about their feelings of powerless and frustration at how the system feels so unresponsive right now. |
1:08.6 | They also reflect on our wonderful Cincinnati live event last weekend |
1:11.6 | and how we try to avoid a consumption model in our events. Plus, they share how they're thinking |
1:16.3 | about our production as we head into our short summer break the next few weeks. We hope you |
1:20.5 | enjoy this little bonus from us and that if you do, you'll consider joining so many other of our |
1:24.8 | amazing listeners in our community on Substack. All the info about how to do that is in the show notes. |
1:31.7 | Sarah, I think this episode might be the spicy liminal space. |
1:35.4 | We are coming off of our live show. |
1:39.9 | We are getting ready to legitimately take two weeks of vacation. |
1:45.9 | But we just have this week here in between where we are sorting out our feelings about what came before, getting ready |
1:52.3 | for what's coming next, and also dealing with what's in front of us. And you used the phrase |
1:57.9 | slow, simmering rage to describe your reaction to the headlines. |
2:02.9 | So today we have more to say just to kind of workshop that slow simmering rage. |
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