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The Smart Passive Income Online Business and Blogging Podcast

SPI 881: The Science of Scaling with Dr. Benjamin Hardy

The Smart Passive Income Online Business and Blogging Podcast

Pat Flynn

Business, Emailmarketing, Entrepreneurship, Videomarketing, Podcasting, Affiliatemarketing

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

#881 What's stopping you from building your dream life? Often, it's something more subtle than obstacles you can't overcome. The thing that's holding you back is likely a clear path to a lesser goal! So, how do you set your sights on "impossible" achievements for next-level business growth? I'm joined by Dr. Benjamin Hardy, co-author of the incredible 10x Is Easier Than 2x, for today's episode. In this chat, we dive deep into building a massive brand using lessons from Dr. Hardy's new book, The Science of Scaling. This session is a total game-changer. You’ll learn why thinking big can make it easier to grow your business, how compressing your timeline forces better action, and why you should say no to more opportunities. Much of what we discuss today may seem counterintuitive, but listen in to find out why rewiring your mindset is the key to unlocking new growth! Show notes and more at SmartPassiveIncome.com/session881.

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0:00.0

It's an interesting time for business.

0:02.0

Tariff and trade policies are dynamic.

0:03.6

Supply chains are squeezed.

0:04.9

And cash flow, it's tighter than ever.

0:06.8

If your business can't adapt in real time, you are in a little bit of hurt.

0:10.7

So how do you get full visibility in adapt in real time?

0:13.5

Over 42,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, your AI-powered business management suite.

0:19.2

It brings accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR all under one roof. NetSuite is the number one cloud ERP for a reason.

0:26.5

It's your single source of truth, giving you the data and control you need to move quickly.

0:30.5

Real-time forecasting helps you move into the future with confidence, and with AI built-in,

0:34.4

you can automate the busy work and focus on strategy. NetSuite helps you see what's stock, what it's costing you, and how to pivot fast. If I were running a business with a lot of moving parts, I'd use NetSuite for full control over everything. Tame the chaos with NetSuite. If your revenues are at least in the seven figures, download the free ebook, Navigating Global Trade Trade, three insights for leaders at netseweet.com slash SPI. That's netsuite.com slash SPI. Hey, I get it. You've worked really hard to build up your business and it's doing great, so great that you need help now. The most important thing for your business is to hire the right people to support it. So how can you find amazing candidates quickly? Easy. Just use Indeed. When it comes to hiring, Indeed is all you need. Stop struggling to get your job post seen on other job sites. Indeed, sponsored jobs helps you stand out and hire fast. And with sponsored jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for your relevant candidates so you can reach the people you want faster. And it makes a huge difference. According to Ind, sponsored jobs posted directly on Indeed, have 45% more applicants than non-sponsored jobs. And it's one of the largest databases of job seekers, too, giving business owners access to a wide range of candidates. And one of the things I love most about Indeed is the job alerts feature. I get notified when new candidates apply. There's no need to wait any longer. Speed up your hiring right now

1:45.6

with Indeed. And listeners of this show will get $75 sponsored job credit to get your jobs more

1:50.6

visibility at Indeed.com slash smartpassive. Just go to Indeed.com slash smart passive right now

1:56.8

and support our show by saying you heard about Indeed on this podcast. Indeed.com slash smart passive.

2:01.9

Terms and conditions apply.

2:03.0

Hiring, Indeed is all you need.

2:05.4

I think for most people, scaling is the wrong answer.

2:09.0

Most people have thought about scaling wrong for a long time,

2:12.1

which led them to having the wrong goals for their business.

2:14.7

And so going from good to great requires a very different type of growth.

2:22.1

But scaling itself, it doesn't necessarily have to be harder. It takes a different psychology

2:28.2

and a different use of strategy, but it doesn't actually have to destroy you. Just as an example,

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