SPENCER MATTHEWS: OUR FIRST HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR FRIENDSHIP

Great Company with Jamie Laing

Jampot

Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.5 • 947 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Spencer Matthews is a very old friend of mine - we grew up together sharing some pretty embarrassing moments on television, making a name for ourselves as podcasters interviewing (and winding up) some of Hollywood’s finest, in our podcast, ‘6 Degrees’.

However, in the last few years, our friendship has begun to wane, and it’s a question I’m asked all the time: "Have you and Spencer fallen out?". To tell the truth, I've never really known the answer to this… We’ve hardly seen each other for a number of reasons, and so when he reached out about this recording, I thought it’s time to get to the bottom of this, because friendships are important and worth fighting for.

We cover:

Why he wasn’t invited to my London wedding
Where he was during my ultramarathons
Wild stories of our time on Made In Chelsea
Spencer shares the lowest points of his alcoholism
How the grief of losing his brother as a child, has impacted his capacity for emotions

This podcast was created for connection in a world of disconnection, and this episode is quite raw for me. Like many men, I’m not always the greatest communicator, and I think Spencer would say the same for himself, so having this opportunity to sit down together, and lay it all out on the table was really special.

And I've got a new book coming out, Boys Don't Cry which you can pre-order here: boysdontcry.co.uk

I also sat down with Spencer on his podcast, Untapped, which, if you loved this, you can check out too: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/untapped/id1788474884

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Exec Producer: Jemima Rathbone

Producer: Helen Burke

Assistant Producer: Rhoda Abrokwa

Video: Jake Ji & Josh Bennett

Audio: Rafi Amsili

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0:00.0	You and I were pretty much thick as thieves.
0:01.7	Yeah.
0:02.1	But we went through a really rocky period. Why do you think that happened? Then I had my English wedding, and you won't invited to it. At first, I just brushed it off as, oh, it's fine. It doesn't matter. But the more I thought about it, the more I probably felt that it did matter. The true reason for it was this. Hang a second.
0:21.9	Go on then.
0:22.9	Hi, I'm Spencer Matthews, and I'm in great company, sort of. The broadcaster has made history. 30 marathons in 30 days. This is Spencer Matthews. You've known me for 20 years. It feels weird saying that, doesn't it? Yeah, 20 years. Yeah, I don't know anyone for 20 years. We spoke to some of the biggest names on the planet.
0:38.2	Paul Rudd.
0:38.8	Brad Pitt.
0:39.5	Morgan Freeman.
0:40.4	Jalo.
0:41.1	We got topless with Channing Tatum. Yes, we did. If you could go back in time, would you redo MIC or would you not? I was a very heavy drinker at that time. What day do you remember when even you went, this is bad? If I could walk past
0:55.1	the liquor cabinet and there was nobody looking or nobody around, I might have a sneaky shot of
0:58.5	tequila or something at, you know, 9 a.m. How old are you when your bro died again? 10. Really? He was
1:04.0	my hero. He goes up on Everest and he doesn't come home. Even at his memorial service,
1:08.9	months later, there was no body there.
1:11.2	Even then I had thoughts that he was living in Nepal.
1:14.5	And I was thinking, you know, maybe one day he'll come home.
1:17.6	That's very honest.
1:18.6	I've never heard you say that ever.
1:19.7	I don't think I have said it before.
1:21.2	So, at the end of all of this, are we friends?
1:30.9	Hey, it's Adam Grant from Worklife, a podcast from TED.
1:34.6	This episode is brought to you by FreshWorks.
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