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Spectator Out Loud: Mickey Down, Charlie Gammell, Sean Thomas & Douglas Murray

Best of the Spectator

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4.3826 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s Spectator Out Loud: Mickey Down, co-creator of Industry, reads his diary for the week; Charlie Gammell argues that US intervention could push Iran into civil war and terrorism – warning that there are more possibilities than just revolution or regime survival; false dichotomy at the heart of; Sean Thomas bemoans the bittersweet liberation from his libido; and, Douglas Murray believes Britain has a growing obsession with race.


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com.com.com. W.com. Voucher to claim this offer now. Terms apply. Hello and welcome to Spectator Out Loud, where each week we choose some of our favourite pieces from the magazine and ask their writers to read them aloud.

0:45.6

I'm Patrick Gibbons on this week's podcast. As the fourth series of industry is released, co-creator Mickey Down says he loves New York, but is glad to have left.

0:53.9

Charlie Gamble argues that US intervention could push Iran into civil war and terrorism,

0:58.9

warning that there are more possibilities than just revolution or regime survival.

1:03.5

Sean Thomas bemoans the bittersweet liberation from his libido.

1:07.2

And finally, Douglas Murray believes that Britain has a growing obsession with race. Up first, Mickey Down.

1:14.3

I reached New York for the Premier or the Four Seasons of Industry in a mild state of delirium.

1:19.4

I was travelling from Larmu, and it had taken four flights and 20 hours in the air to reach the US.

1:25.5

Larmu is so beautiful that it briefly makes you consider whether to bother with Western civilization

1:29.7

at all.

1:30.9

On the rickety flight to the island from mainland Kenya, I had sat next to a German count I vaguely

1:35.5

knew.

1:36.3

You looking to get a little fucked up? he asked.

1:39.3

I mumbled something about family time.

1:41.5

He nodded and wished me luck.

1:43.2

On New Year's Day, I ran into him again,

1:45.6

by which point he had abandoned all pretensive dignity. It felt fitting then that I should follow

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