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🗓️ 28 January 2023
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0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher. |
0:26.5 | Hello, I'm Natasha Froes and this is Spectator Out Loud. |
0:35.8 | Each week we ask a few of the writers from the magazine to read their pieces. |
0:40.8 | Coming up on the show, we have Matthew Paris on the next two years on the war in Ukraine. |
0:46.1 | Lionel Shriver is fighting her own war against words. And Gus Carter on the return of the bison. |
0:52.8 | First, Matthew Paris. |
0:55.7 | I awoke in the small hours last week and began worrying about the Ukraine war. |
1:01.8 | A friend had earlier taken me to task over the airy way I'd introduced an argument with the words, |
1:07.4 | once we've won the war in Ukraine, as though this was a simple matter and just a |
1:12.0 | question of when. But what does Wynne mean? Does the searchlight of our intelligence, backed |
1:18.7 | by what we already know, really illuminate the landscape ahead? Might things come to pass |
1:25.2 | that we just haven't thought of? |
1:28.3 | Even people as old as me remember wars that, though bloody and protracted, were fairly straightforward as narratives, |
1:36.3 | with clear and final objectives and, in story terms, a reasonably clear-cut ending. |
1:42.3 | The Second World War is an outstanding example. The Falklands are more minor but equally clear-cut ending. The Second World War is an outstanding example. |
1:46.0 | The Falklands are more minor but equally clear case. |
1:49.0 | We knew what winning meant. |
1:51.0 | Hitler and Galtieri knew what losing meant. |
1:55.0 | Even after the Korean War, there was a simple and permanent partition. |
2:00.0 | These were proper endings, followed by a stable state. |
2:05.2 | We imagine, I suppose, that the present Ukraine business will turn out like one of those. |
2:11.1 | Crudely, I thought at first, that the Russians should just be pulverized, |
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